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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:09 am
by *BiO*Tron
I think Rain meant all these variables to be dates and not percentage values. This makes that formula VERY powerful because you can use it for every project, provided you know the value of "when it's done" (which is maybe a bit unrealistic
).
If you guys told us though the value of "when it started" then everyone could calculate on his own "when it's done" and "percent complete" of today (using 70% for "percent complete" in conjuction with the date of bani's interview).
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:35 am
by bani
Theres also another powerful formula for software development:
B = F + 1
Where B is 'number of bugs in your program' and F is 'number of bugs already found'.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:39 am
by fretn
oh I thought it was
bani = fretn + 1
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:58 pm
by Threshold
Well take your time. Doesn't look like there is gonna be ET or RTCW at Qcon 2004... BAH.
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:15 am
by jorylit
Threshold wrote:Well take your time. Doesn't look like there is gonna be ET or RTCW at Qcon 2004... BAH.
what is it got to do with qcon, there r still alot of interesting games to watch without qcon.
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:10 am
by =FF=im2good4u
if a progrma has like 20 bugs found thne you get
b = 20 = 1
so you end up having 21 bugs ..
while i think most programs got more thne 1 hidden bug
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:37 am
by jorylit
=FF=im2weak4u wrote:if a progrma has like 20 bugs found thne you get
b = 20 = 1
so you end up having 21 bugs ..
while i think most programs got more thne 1 hidden bug
well gl dealing with the bugs i have no knowlege about programing
but please do it as fast as u can.
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:59 am
by mouse
jorylit wrote:Threshold wrote:Well take your time. Doesn't look like there is gonna be ET or RTCW at Qcon 2004... BAH.
what is it got to do with qcon, there r still alot of interesting games to watch without qcon.
well, the target was to finish it when quakecon started, but since that isnt the pressure anymore they can devellop ettv a bit longer
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:12 am
by Spoofeh
QCon was a big blow to the competetive side of ET, so I'd say we need ETTV as soon as possible (i.e. "when it's finished"
) to give it a boost. If it takes too long there may not be anything worth watching...
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:21 am
by =FF=im2good4u
mouse wrote:well, the target was to finish it when quakecon started, but since that isnt the pressure anymore they can devellop ettv a bit longer
yeh until next year
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:10 am
by Rain
I would personally still like to have something usable (even if not yet full-featured) in time for Qcon. People are planning BYOB tournament, and while I don't have high expectations of it, it'd be cool to have ETTV handy should it manage to avoid sucking (a real possibility if some people organize things well in the short amount of time left.)
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:56 pm
by faltytower
jorylit wrote:=FF=im2weak4u wrote:if a progrma has like 20 bugs found thne you get
b = 20 = 1
so you end up having 21 bugs ..
while i think most programs got more thne 1 hidden bug
well gl dealing with the bugs i have no knowlege about programing
but please do it as fast as u can.
The formula just says that no matter how well a software is coded, it's never going to be perfect. Sort of the like answer to a feasibility proposition or jokes blaming the software developer for software (un)realiability.
Rain wrote:I would personally still like to have something usable (even if not yet full-featured) in time for Qcon. People are planning BYOB tournament, and while I don't have high expectations of it, it'd be cool to have ETTV handy should it manage to avoid sucking (a real possibility if some people organize things well in the short amount of time left.)
While I would have loved to have spectated matches between the best ET team in the world @ an officially sanctioned QCon tournament (be they from NA, SA, Europe, Australia, Asia), I wouldn't mind a cast of a smaller, private one either.
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:33 am
by Fade2Black
Ah, but just you wait...
Once it becomes !live, they'll be hundereds of new betting shops opening online and we will be the stakes....
Unless i've read human nature wrong...
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 3:46 pm
by Kamel
all of you who are asking "when will it be done" have clearly never programmed. you run into problems, you run into bugs. occasionally something major will happen that will cause an entire re-write, or an exemption of code. either way, it's clear that no one but God knows exactly when it will be released, because no one can see into the future (no, not even bani).