Tell me dear apple...

Ragnar_40k · Post by **Ragnar_40k** » Thu May 12, 2005 7:32 am

Isn't MAC OS based on Unix too?

Truus · Post by **Truus** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:04 am

yep, thats right.
darwin kernel, almost the same as the freebsd system.

Post by **bani** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:36 am

darwin isnt anywhere close to freebsd. it doesnt even have shared libraries in the traditional sense. if it's close to anything, it's close to Nextstep.

apple hired jordan hubbard, and they took a bunch of freebsd userspace utilities, but the kernel is still based on mach -- not freebsd. the influence of mach and nextstep can be seen everywhere.

however, every new version of osx is getting farther from being anything like unix at all. 10.4 even got rid of cron. pretty soon it will be completely unrecognizable.

this still doesn't excuse apple's poor architectural decisions for aqua. for example, the only reason expose exists is because apple's window management is terrible. if it had a decent window manager, expose wouldn't be needed at all.

Truus · Post by **Truus** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:00 am

if i read your words, you meen apple is shit?
what os do you reccomend as os for serving ET?

Nail · Post by **Nail** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:36 am

Linux works quite well as an Enemy Territory server o/s

Truus · Post by **Truus** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:43 am

yes, i know that.
but there are so f#$$$%cking many distro's.
i don't know witch i must choose then.

zinx · Post by **zinx** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:45 am

Debian's easy to install/manage, if that helps :/
EDIT: Just make sure you get sarge :P

ReyalP · Post by **ReyalP** » Thu May 12, 2005 12:33 pm

Truus wrote:if i read your words, you meen apple is shit?
what os do you reccomend as os for serving ET?

Apple having a shitty UI (an opinion that I fully agree with) doesn't say anything about how good a server it would make.

However, it does have some serious downsides there as well. Even the dedicated tty console server will only run if the account it is running under is logged into the desktop (due to the crummy way bundles work, apperently), and my impression was that it doesn't multitask very smoothly.

Apple came fairly close to getting things right, but there are a lot of rough edges.

ouroboro · Post by **ouroboro** » Thu May 12, 2005 1:17 pm

Truus wrote:yes, i know that.
but there are so f#$$$%cking many distro's.
i don't know witch i must choose then.

slack ftw