they are. this is a shooter. that means shooting people, yes. scoring kills, however, is not the primary objective. i fail to see how making it harder to hit people would change the objectives. it would simply up the stakes and many top players would be knocked down a peg (not to mention players who suck, like me). everyone would simply have to improve their aim. do we really prefer it to be relatively easy to kill the enemy? or do we want more challenging gameplay?
if the former, might i suggest we make the headbox larger? perhaps make it like q3a with only one box around the entire player, but give it headbox damage? cmon let's take those pesky defenders down ASAP so we can get to the objective, right? or rather, would it be better if it actually required TRULY precise aim to kill? i say the latter...
you called my statement "silly" and gave it a "rofl", yet you say "realism is just a distraction"? then why are we even playing a game roughly based on history? i never suggested it should be realistic to the point of becoming America's Army (which is a great game for other reasons), i'm simply suggesting that shooting the model of your enemy makes perfect sense and is instinctively what you're supposed to do anyway. ET has plenty of arcadey aspects that will not change, such as raising people from the dead (when it says "You killed ETPlayer", true realism would require him to actually die
).in etmain, i knew that if an engi was building the bridge on FD and i shot over the boxes, i could kill him even though i couldn't see him. that was silly, so bani fixed it. the very premise of a headbox is itself a nod to my way of thinking - shots to the head do more damage to people, so they improved the original single bounding box from q3a and made the game reflect that reality. b_realhead improves that idea even further, and i'm gonna go way out on a limb and guess that b_realhead wasn't done to make the game less realistic...
also, as you know very well, having made your hitbox display mod, there are even boxes to differentiate between the legs and other body parts when prone, because they wanted to "tighten" the box around that smaller area to better reflect it's surface area.
tightening the hitboxes even more by essentially wrapping the model in an invisible cocoon that is form-fitted rather than a bulky box is simply the next step in the evolution. this would also allow for different damage per body part, which would enhance gameplay IMO by making extremities less vital. as it stands now, i can shoot you in the "foot" (read: in the body box but aiming at your model's foot) and it will do the same damage as if i hit your model in the heart. this would in fact mean fewer kills for lesser skilled aimers, because a shot to the arm wouldn't get the job done - yet skilled aimers would be rewarded by hitting the chest or head.
anyway, just because we have different opinions certainly doesn't mean i'm "silly". i don't think your opinion is silly, in fact i value it and welcome the debate.
Gameplay always _has_ to come first. And like I said, future games will certainly use more accurate hit detection models like Doom3, but it has to be considered while designing the gameplay and just plugging it into a current game can have very bad results.
