etpro for rtcw!

ReyalP · Post by **ReyalP** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:52 pm

It would make more sense to add more (optional) rtcwish features to etpro. We already have b_wolfrof and the ability to limit non-rtcw weapons/classes. The major things would be a wolfish sniper rifle and the venom. Options to use the RTCW panzerfaust damage, and the differences in charge time and suport fire would be easy enough.

WeblionX · Post by **WeblionX** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:48 pm

Then we just need an ET 2.7 release that adds support for RTCW maps. And then 2.8 can add RTCW SP support! Then 2.9 adds AI for multiplayer, and 3.0 is all that sold as a bonus-disk with RTCW 2. Excuse me for a moment, I have an idea to sell...

CrazyGuy · Post by **CrazyGuy** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:20 pm

Why not just make a feature to add the RTCW Mods to ET. Without converting them.

Wait, that might be an program that you might have to make.

(I'll keep dreaming...)

deej · Post by **deej** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:47 pm

reyalp wrote:The major things would be a wolfish sniper rifle and the venom. Options to use the RTCW panzerfaust damage, and the differences in charge time and suport fire would be easy enough.

Please tell me you are quoting the ETPro development roadmap now

...

By the way: didn't players move faster in RTCW (can't recall exactly since I haven't played it in 2 years)?

=FF=im2good4u · Post by **=FF=im2good4u** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:51 am

excuss me but RTCW is DEAD noob !

Spoofeh · Post by **Spoofeh** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:19 am

I played it yesterday, and no, it's not dead.

Great rtcw maps like Murder Hill

is a major reason why getting the RtCW weapons in ET isn't enough.

Banimod + antilag and b_realhead from etpro would be better imho (though a lot of people would also want osp features).

ReyalP · Post by **ReyalP** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:11 pm

Spoofeh wrote: Banimod + antilag and b_realhead from etpro would be better imho (though a lot of people would also want osp features).

OTOH, you would have to refix a while bunch of bugs in RTCW, and the code is just different enough that it often isn't a straight copy/paste.

Doing it in ET has a number of advantages:
- most of the OSP stuff is already there
- the ET engine is better (features like www downloads, and bug/exploit fixes)
- ET is free, so anyone who wants to can play
- ETTV > wolftv

Maps are something of an issue, but most of the stock RTCW ones have been ported, as have many popular customs. I suspect most makers of RTCW would give permission for someone to convert them to ET.

deej wrote: By the way: didn't players move faster in RTCW

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

CrazyGuy wrote: Why not just make a feature to add the RTCW Mods to ET. Without converting them.

That is very hard for a number of reasons. The engine APIs being different is the obvious one. If you were going to do that, the logical place to start would be the q3 engine (since the source is available), but it would be a lot of work and the result would probably be illegal.

deej · Post by **deej** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:08 pm

reyalp wrote:
deej wrote: By the way: didn't players move faster in RTCW
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

That sounds like a challenge

MorsTua · Post by **MorsTua** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:08 pm

=FF=im2good4u wrote:excuss me but RTCW is DEAD noob !

www.warleagues.com cup of nations incoming, season xiii incoming, season xii finished 1 month ago
Maybe wolf is going to quakecon...

who's dead?

Deus · Post by **Deus** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:00 am

MorsTua wrote:
=FF=im2good4u wrote:excuss me but RTCW is DEAD noob !

www.warleagues.com cup of nations incoming, season xiii incoming, season xii finished 1 month ago
Maybe wolf is going to quakecon...

who's dead?

He's talking about development.
Same as win98 (from Bill's POV).
"No further support available"

=FF=im2good4u · Post by **=FF=im2good4u** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:36 pm

Deus wrote:
MorsTua wrote:
=FF=im2good4u wrote:excuss me but RTCW is DEAD noob !

www.warleagues.com cup of nations incoming, season xiii incoming, season xii finished 1 month ago
Maybe wolf is going to quakecon...

who's dead?
He's talking about development.
Same as win98 (from Bill's POV).
"No further support available"

no i was talking aobut rtcw but i didnt mean it i jsuted wanted to start a discusiion lol i still play rtcw atleast 5 times a weak

squadjot · Post by **squadjot** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:38 pm

b_rtcw 1

Ragnar_40k · Post by **Ragnar_40k** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:38 pm

Imho adding rtcw stuff and new gametypes should be left to other mods like etpub to keep ETPro "clean" for competition gaming.

ReyalP · Post by **ReyalP** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:23 pm

Ragnar_40k wrote:Imho adding rtcw stuff and new gametypes should be left to other mods like etpub to keep ETPro "clean" for competition gaming.

The changes required to make etpro quite RTCW-ish wouldn't really bloat that much, and should have no significant impact on runtime performance. To me, the advantage of being able to use all the existing etpro features and bug fixes would far outweigh the inconvenience of starting a new codebase. One could fork the etpro codebase (or keep one codebase and use a shitload of #ifdefs), but IMO, the hassles would far outweigh the benefits.

Disclaimer: This is just my personal opinion