etpro for rtcw!

WeblionX · Post by **WeblionX** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:52 pm

Well, we could have ETPro be a trunk, and every mod gets to be a branch of the code. \o\

gotenks · Post by **gotenks** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:09 pm

reyalp wrote:
Ragnar_40k wrote:Imho adding rtcw stuff and new gametypes should be left to other mods like etpub to keep ETPro "clean" for competition gaming.
The changes required to make etpro quite RTCW-ish wouldn't really bloat that much, and should have no significant impact on runtime performance. To me, the advantage of being able to use all the existing etpro features and bug fixes would far outweigh the inconvenience of starting a new codebase. One could fork the etpro codebase (or keep one codebase and use a shitload of #ifdefs), but IMO, the hassles would far outweigh the benefits.

Disclaimer: This is just my personal opinion

Spark2 · Post by **Spark2** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:17 pm

I think RTCW still has a very different "feeling" to it than ET, everything feels a little darker, heavier and more war-like (like the massive shaking caused by all the spam on base...).

As far as gameplay is concerned, I can't even tell why someone would want to tweak ETPro like RTCW, since it would basically involve adding a lot of spam and a cowardish sniper rifle.

Granted ET has landmines, mortar and mobile MG, but those are easily disabled.

squadjot · Post by **squadjot** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:03 pm

if it was done right..i think it could be popular

fretn · Post by **fretn** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:22 am

Spark2 wrote:since it would basically involve adding a lot of spam

onelegend · Post by **onelegend** » Sat May 20, 2006 9:35 am

most of the changes have already been done in a mod for et

rtcwmod- renamed to lamapro

converts skins, adds thertcw weapons etc.

hesadded quite alot of etpro features aswell- never been advertised to get popular plus it had a nasty random server crash bug which has recently been fixed.

http://home.comcast.net/~dbpryor/lamapro.html <-- old version but lists most of the big changes.

http://lamapro.spoonix.org/ <--- his current homepage/forums with latest release download.

Only 1 guy working on the mod so not bad work imo

Dersaidin · Post by **Dersaidin** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:51 pm

Covertops now have the no shoot sign over their heads rather then when you aim at them

GOOD IDEA!

ouroboro · Post by **ouroboro** » Sat May 20, 2006 10:01 pm

I think Radea posted that because his team is playing RtCW again. Changing ET won't help RtCW.

squadjot · Post by **squadjot** » Sun May 21, 2006 4:07 am

ouroboro wrote:I think Radea posted that because his team is playing RtCW again. Changing ET won't help RtCW.

let the "old" be as it is... and make a RTCW version to ET ?..whast the deal?

i would love to play the RTCW-ET thats for sure..

and why are u talking about coverts?..theyre not in RTCW (one of the reasons thast RTCW is not ET and vice verca) duh

SeEk · Post by **SeEk** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:17 pm

Really good idea..lets make it a reality

Deus · Post by **Deus** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:32 pm

Hurrah for reviving old threads

The Necromancer · Post by **The Necromancer** » Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:55 am

RTCW with etpro antilag, etpro guids, and realhead FTW!
but then again RTCW is more dead than alive

ouroboro · Post by **ouroboro** » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:59 am

The Necromancer wrote:RTCW with etpro antilag, etpro guids, and realhead FTW!
but then again RTCW is more dead than alive

RtCW would not survive those changes because part of what makes the game playable is it's flaws.

squadjot · Post by **squadjot** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 3:42 am

ouroboro wrote: RtCW would not survive those changes because part of what makes the game playable is it's flaws.

thats a load of narrowminded bullshit imo..

and infact it has nothing to with RTCW(origin) will survive or not.. its about a MOD, that would let people play the RTCW gameplay for free.. and thats the main point..the second point is simply to get a ET:RTCW that WILL never die..(because its free).. =)

so.. how can you even sit and counter argument for a MOD ?.. were not touching your precious little rtcw..

ouroboro · Post by **ouroboro** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:46 pm

squadjot wrote:
ouroboro wrote: RtCW would not survive those changes because part of what makes the game playable is it's flaws.
thats a load of narrowminded bullshit imo..

and infact it has nothing to with RTCW(origin) will survive or not.. its about a MOD, that would let people play the RTCW gameplay for free.. and thats the main point..the second point is simply to get a ET:RTCW that WILL never die..(because its free).. =)

so.. how can you even sit and counter argument for a MOD ?.. were not touching your precious little rtcw..

Relax. I don't care what happens to RTCW because I don't play it (sv_screenshake sucks ass).

The lack of antilag and realhead are part of what make the higher ROF tolerable. Why do you think b_wolfrof didn't catch on? Sure it's a pretty drastic gameplay change for the majority to embrace, but you'd think there would be a little niche of RTCW fans running a few "RTCWPro" servers, right? It's for the same reason Demoman (creator of RTCWMod) said this regarding his own mod:

example.cfg wrote:rtcw smg attributes - not recommended for servers who run anti-lag (kills happen too quick)

And this regarding ETPro:

Demoman wrote:the sniper rifle isnt powerful enough in et to counter shots from a mp40 from accross the map with rtcw ROF

with a working anti-lag you are dead in less than a second.

its just a bad idea all around to increase the ROF and cut off distance falloff

I happen to agree with him. If you introduce all the whiz-bang improvements of ETPro into the RTCW universe, you get a game that's no longer fun. The two games are very similar, but they are different enough that careful consideration is required before you start Frankensteining them. This is why many people feel that ported RTCW maps suck in ET - because the "ET Stuff" is not compatible with those maps, which were designed with RTCW in mind, including all its shortcomings.

I'm all for a "free RTCW," but you can already have that with RTCWMod, which fulfills that goal much better than any current ETPro implementation could. You can also get a nearly free copy directly from the id Software store...

So no, I'm not being narrow-minded. In fact I've probably given the topic more honest consideration than you have.