Prone proprosal

Herf · Post by **Herf** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:07 am

Heh, I have always thought it would be cool if like a nade or mortar was coming and one went prone, it should like take 1/3rd of the damage off, or make the damage radius one half or something. Kinda would be realistic, and add another tactical element to the game, like if one saw a mortar coming in, and one went prone, one would have a greater chance of living. which is basically what happens in real (yeah I know its no where close to real) warfare. Heheh, I would just get a kick out of seeing like stiegl or someone mortaring a spawn rush and seeing a whole team hit the deck. It would make people watch for mortars coming in, and give them an opportunity to do something besides think "oh shoot" for a second : P

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=FF=im2good4u · Post by **=FF=im2good4u** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:10 am

in et you hardly can see a mortor comming

Sqwirral · Post by **Sqwirral** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:23 am

I've thought this before too, but not with mortar (coz you can't see it), more with airstrikes and arty. Sometimes you're backed against a wall and know you can't run away before it hits, would be cool if you could do a little something to minimise the damage.

Spark2 · Post by **Spark2** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:56 am

You can't see a mortar, but you can hear it. I like this proposal, also for support fire. But ETPro isn't about changing gameplay, so if anything, it would probably be an option and then its usefulness would be questioned (how would you know if proning will help you or not?).

kekkyoku · Post by **kekkyoku** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:03 pm

Just disable prone and make it for the MG class but only when they deploy. Its a fucking plague to this game.

ReyalP · Post by **ReyalP** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:10 pm

Spark2 wrote:You can't see a mortar, but you can hear it

Hmmm, I can see mortars. Hax ?

Saladin · Post by **Saladin** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:01 pm

Yeah, you can see mortars if you run around with your fov looking straight up.

Other than that, I really only see them on beach or oasis where they are being used offensively. Most of the time, by the time you see it, you're toast.

As for this actual thread, giving people ANOTHER reason to go prone, NO THX.

Fade2Black · Post by **Fade2Black** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:18 pm

You'll be letting the engineers dig foxholes and create temporary sandbags for defense next...

Without prone it removes the Machine-Gun.

Should the mortar actually make a whistling sound as it arcs over - giving you the chance to hear it coming?

Japman · Post by **Japman** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:16 pm

if allies are mortaring the axis on battery, i can sometimes dodge mortars, but the hit the deck thing would be cool. It would also be better if they jumpe to the ground rather than crawling.

fretn · Post by **fretn** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:20 pm

maybe if we ever make CODpro

Herf · Post by **Herf** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:22 pm

I see mortars soming in, u have like a split second to react, it would be possible to prone before hiting if your prone key is handy.

It is NOT possible to evade, there is no time. Also even if you miss prone the first time, the mortars are often fired in groups of two.

Yeah a whistling sound would be cool, possibly..... I dont want to make mortars less effective per se, I may be against a whistling sound, it may give too much warning dunno. I know the time I see mortars would give me the occasional chance to get a prone in before it hit though, maybe achieving this like 50 percent of the ones I actually manage to see coming in (which may be 20-50 percent of the ones that blow up around me).

Heheh, like i said, its kinda a lighthearted suggestion, but I would think it would be cool, and would turn a futile situation into a possible saveble one if one had quick reflexes.

Bedrock · Post by **Bedrock** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:10 pm

kekkyoku wrote:Just disable prone and make it for the MG class but only when they deploy. Its a fucking plague to this game.

Are you god? because only god could propose such a GREAT fucking idea.

Prone is a fucking disease that needs to be removed. I say this with much hate, embrace the force.

edit:
It would not disable the MG class, just have it so weapalt autoprones.

Bani was nice enough to mod /kill and giving xp per damage, so I don't see any reason he cannot nerf prone to the point where its not abused. (not that i cared about /kill, all it did was put the enemy further away from me.)

Trippy · Post by **Trippy** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:55 pm

making mortar less lethal is bad, in wars when one goes mortar then he should be able to be effective without the other team having options to make damage/noticing it easier. in the end, the team that does use a mortar is down one man allready. and the mortar is probably one of the most difficult to use weapons of the game allready.

my conclusion dont make mortar easier to dodge or make it so that you can have less damage by doing a certain action. it's allready hard enough to kill for the one using the mortar.

about beeing able to avoid damage for airstrikes and arti, i think this does have some good things in it, it's not like calling an arty is as hard as making effective mortar kills.

NewdeaL · Post by **NewdeaL** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 3:39 am

Bedrock wrote:
kekkyoku wrote:Just disable prone and make it for the MG class but only when they deploy. Its a fucking plague to this game.
Are you god? because only god could propose such a GREAT fucking idea.

Prone is a fucking disease that needs to be removed. I say this with much hate, embrace the force.

edit:
It would not disable the MG class, just have it so weapalt autoprones.

Bani was nice enough to mod /kill and giving xp per damage, so I don't see any reason he cannot nerf prone to the point where its not abused. (not that i cared about /kill, all it did was put the enemy further away from me.)

praise. ahmen.

disable prone, imo with the prone animation/hitbox the way it works, its an exploit, which allows someone to compensate for crappy aim.

in rtcw, someone compensated for crappy aim by playing panzer or flamethrower (if they were truly bad) so c'mon, get rid of this shit, leave it for the mg-42, its the only real reason it was implimented into the game.

ReyalP · Post by **ReyalP** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:55 am

Anyone who can't hit a stationary target should /uninstall

Do you guys really have that much trouble killing proners ? Honestly, I don't see it giving the people who do it against me much of an advantage. Yes, sometimes it catches me by surprise, but for the most part, people who own me 1v1 are more likely to die if they prone. Maybe I just haven't come up against a l333t pronAr, or maybe I can actually aim down quickly because my sensitivity isn't 0.00000000000000000001

Heck, crouch is instant just like prone, and if you strafe while crouched, the head hitbox is way off. Should we take that out too ? OMG CROUCHER HAX!111. Shit, lets make it like doom where up/down aiming is automatic...

Prone has a few good uses in ET, and IMO, doing it in a firefight is usally not one of them. The only times I use it are to mg42, hide behind low cover, shoot under something, or have a low profile while engineering something.

I suggest you anti-proners try it for a while. My guess is that you will find that it sucks, and you die. When you realize that is true, I don't see how you can complain about your opponents doing it

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