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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 7:46 pm    Post subject: Cancellation of ET planned in advance? Reply with quote

I was browsing through the Wolf 1.41 source code, and stumbled across this:
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{ &cg_zoomDefaultSnooper, "cg_zoomDefaultSnooper", "40", CVAR_ARCHIVE }, // JPW NERVE made temp

{ &cg_zoomStepSnooper, "cg_zoomStepSnooper", "5", CVAR_ARCHIVE },

Considering that ET was supposed to be a seperate game (which was going to include the snooper), there would be no need for this, unless they knew that it would be an expansion in advanced. Kind of makes you think. Or maybe it doesn't.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i always hurt myself if i think.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They leave alot of single player stuff that isn't necessarily used in the multiplayer, in the multiplayer code. They might not have had an expansion in mind, they just leave it in there for the heck of it, and for anyone who cares.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RtCW is one of the messiest retail mod releases I've seen Razz. There is a ton of code leftover from Quake 3, and as you can see, even some left over from their own damn mod. The more you look around, the more you'll find stuff left in, and commented out, instead of cleaned up.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is a snooper? sorry never really liked the single player.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snooper = silent sniperrifle that see's heat...
as a programmer i know and can say this... we're lazy, if it doesn't effect program operations they'll leave it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a more experienced programmer than that whom made the previous post, I can say this ( Wink ), joy and pride comes in cleaning your code and making it efficient and beautiful.

If it was left in there and commented on, it was meant either as:

A. An educational snippet
B. Something that might be useful in the future
C. An experiment to see if gullible morons like us would actualy have a conversation about it
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooh oooh ooh... i pick c... woo hoo...
most programmers will leave tidbits of code in because they may beable to modify it later... eg. mod programmers(great bani) may beable to use it
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figured someone would join in about how it was left over from single player. But for the "lazy excuse", it's easier to go to the end of the line, do shift+home, then backspace than adding a comment.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I program too, and I usually just comment old code, or code that doesn't work. The reason? In case I break something, I have a backup. If you program, you soon realize that deleting code is not such a great idea, so you comment it out. Commented code is discarded by the compiler, so it won't effect your program at all.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, I do the same when I am messing with a particular block, usualy a while loop. I just take the block and comment it out, then move it to the bottom so I can reference the last known to work code block if i mess up the one I am working with. Alot of the time, when you are trying to make something more efficient or better, you end up screwing it up so bad you can't get it to work at all, and it's nice to have backups Very Happy.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah... backups... for the people who can't get it right the first time... ok... so i messed up on one program where i basically had to go through my entire code and find the error... but only once. I'm just too lazy to backup Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys ever heard of source control? Diff? sheesh!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2003 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I remember, ET was supposed to be a free download from the beginning. They later said it would be sold as a seperate game. Now it has gone back to a free download.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wimpy wrote:
From what I remember, ET was supposed to be a free download from the beginning. They later said it would be sold as a seperate game. Now it has gone back to a free download.
Actually, it was supposed to be a store-bought Expansion to RtCW. Then, because of all the features they were packing into it, they decided to make it a complete, seperate game (but priced at Expansion rates). Now, they cancelled the Single Player portion (grrr...) and are going to release the Multiplayer portion as a free, downloadable Expansion.
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