Client side rate

[daytroxative]

ok... here's what i want... i want to be able to change the client side rate... to about 15000 or maybe 10000 this defaults at 25000...... being a client you could do this as

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/rate 15000

.... now being an admin how could i make it so all clients connecting to me use the rate specified??... i know about forcecvar but that only works after a restart..... is the only way to do this a forcecvar every round? i notice if you have a slower connection playing with client side rates and server side rates can help with lagging... any help is appreciated.....[/code]

[Naked Pope]

What about sv_maxrate 15000 ?

[uber-noob]

It's a bad idea forcing the client rate to a specific value. For ex. if you force a ISDN user to a rate of 10000 or more he will go conn interrupted. If you really only want high bandwidth players on your server you could "force" the rate by punkbuster, because it really doesn't matter if the players are being kicked instantly or going conn interrupted and being disconnected some moments later.

[daytroxative]

sv_maxrate is for server side... how much the server sends to clients... not how much clients send to server.... /rate it's a clent side command... oh and uber.... after people connect to my server i forcecvar the rate of 15000 on them instead of 25000.... it smooths things up for me overall when more players are connected... i run my server off my slow ass cable connection.... i only have 12 slots... so anything i can do to reduce lag symptoms is very useful to me...

[daytroxative]

i still need an answer to this... are the only ways to do this force cvars in range? i dont use pb nor would i.... it would be et pro forcing them..... the other thing i thought is putting a forcecvar in the map_default.cfg or whatever its called... for it to run my forcecvar every map.... any ideas on how i can accomplish client side rate control?

[agrado]

I thought 'rate', even though it is client-side, sets the maximum bandwidth the server sends to the clent, and 'sv_maxrate' is simply the maximum bandwidth the server is willing to send. So the bandwidth server->client is min(rate, sv_maxrate), and there is never any reason you as the server admin will want to change the user's 'rate' cvar. In the client->server direction you cannot affect the bandwidth. But I'm just guessing here and may be completely wrong

[uber-noob]

I thought 'rate', even though it is client-side, sets the maximum bandwidth the server sends to the clent, and 'sv_maxrate' is simply the maximum bandwidth the server is willing to send. So the bandwidth server->client is min(rate, sv_maxrate), and there is never any reason you as the server admin will want to change the user's 'rate' cvar. In the client->server direction you cannot affect the bandwidth. But I'm just guessing here and may be completely wrong

No, you are totally right.

[ReyalP]

agrado is right about rate/sv_maxrate. sv_maxrate already does what forcing rate would do, with the bonus of not fucking up your players configs...

To change client->server bw you would have to force cl_maxpackets (which is in updates/sec not bytes/sec). But IMO, you should think very hard about why you want to do this.

[daytroxative]

i know the exact reason i'd want to control the client side rate... i'm on a slow connection.. i run my server free of charge other than personal isp costs... to control the intake from clients i can reduce latency and bandwidth use (overall) due to the server not receiving as much data at one time.... this is helpful... i know about sv_maxrate... i've controlled that on my server.. as well as snaps and max packets... controlling client side rate is a bonus for me... sv_maxrate does not do what controlling rate does... the default rate for client sent data is 25000 ....... sv_maxrate is what goes out... not what comes in... sv_maxrate in no way does what im looking for in this topic.... i dont agree with agrado.....

[gotenks]

yes but is pissing off your visitors by changing their settings a good idea?

[[FF]Adam]

totally, it's his server, not theirs..............if they dont like it, they can leave.

ya can't please everyone

[gotenks]

but people come in not expecting things that they tweak to be changed... would you like being forced to 600x480 resolution when joining a server? It's the same thing

[[FF]Adam]

no, so i'd leave and find another server

because it's his server means he can run it the way he wants, just like everyone else, that's all i'm saying.......

[agrado]

the default rate for client sent data is 25000 ....... sv_maxrate is what goes out... not what comes in... sv_maxrate in no way does what im looking for in this topic.... i dont agree with agrado.....

It doesn't matter if you agree with me or not, 'rate' is still the bandwidth used server to client, and is not something you should fiddle with, and the "default rate for client sent data" is not 25000.

cl_maxpackets is the cvar you want for controlling client->server bandwidth, and again it's probably not a good idea to fiddle with it.

See http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake3/connection.html if you still don't believe me.

[=FF=im2good4u]

like the rest out here i do not suggest oyu do it but if you realy want it :/

as an admin i think you should use the sv_cvar stuff witch is better then forcecvar
[/code]sv_cvar rate eq 10000

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