quad wrote:All cards on the table, but when Chaplja joined the project, he broke all the connections between him/his site and cheats, and he removed all cheat-related files and articles from his server.
Regardless, the fact that he spent several years developing and promoting public cheats counts pretty strongly against him, and by association the rest of the project.
My gut feeling is that spoofeh is right that he continued to do so after the start of etace, but I didn't find any solid examples in a quick search. If someone finds something conclusive (via google cache or wayback), please let us know, (preferably by pm, rather than posting any cheat links here)
quad wrote:All cards on the table, but when Chaplja joined the project, he broke all the connections between him/his site and cheats, and he removed all cheat-related files and articles from his server.
Regardless, the fact that he spent several years developing and promoting public cheats counts pretty strongly against him, and by association the rest of the project.
My gut feeling is that spoofeh is right that he continued to do so after the start of etace, but I didn't find any solid examples in a quick search. If someone finds something conclusive (via google cache or wayback), please let us know, (preferably by pm, rather than posting any cheat links here)
Well he knows that if they create something it will be checked by bani/the etpro team, so you guys can see if he's trustworthy, right?
h3ll wrote:
Well he knows that if they create something it will be checked by bani/the etpro team, so you guys can see if he's trustworthy, right?
If he's lying about discontinuing cheat activities, I personally would not want to have him involved in any way. That seems pretty obvious to me.
Note that backdoors/trojans wouldn't be the main concern. Rather, he would have inside info that would give him a nice little side market in private undetected cheats
Zero tolerance is the best policy when dealing with cheaters.
I would not run etace, CETPUB, Anti3 on any game server. With, or without the licensing from etpro.
First is the innovator, then comes the imitators. Lastly the idiots.
ReyalP, maybe I used too strong words. However during almost 2 years there were no fixes done to the mod, just stopped development. Sure it's a great mod - but as he made Enemy Territory an interesting competition shooter the devs should care at least a little bit of what is going on.
As a server admin I don't want to be off with etpro then just let bani to check it and no problems.
On the other hand LUA can many things, but not all.. so it would be nice to release the 3.2.7 for the last time!
There will be other mods replacing etpro if updates aren't made.
ET has a good base as its free, people will still be playing enemy territory in 5-6-7 years.
ET dead?.... never ..i wan't it more than ever..
RTCW2? ( aka QW:ET in RTCW skins) ..no thanks!
Give me an OSP-flavored RTCW-MOD (for ET).. and you will never hear me cry again.
EvilJohn wrote:Zero tolerance is the best policy when dealing with cheaters.
I would not run etace, CETPUB, Anti3 on any game server. With, or without the licensing from etpro.
Except that it would probably become forced by the majority of leagues. I don't think it matters if public servers use it or not, it's the competitive scene that will be benefiting the most from this.
EvilJohn wrote:Zero tolerance is the best policy when dealing with cheaters.
I would not run etace, CETPUB, Anti3 on any game server. With, or without the licensing from etpro.
Except that it would probably become forced by the majority of leagues. I don't think it matters if public servers use it or not, it's the competitive scene that will be benefiting the most from this.
AC anti-cheat is all about reaction. A web site, group, cheat coder, makes a cheat. A anti- cheat site gets wind of it. They break it down. Then add detections. Those who can add detections instantly are the best. Hub Live Streaming with md5 checks, cvar checks, bind queries, = instantly
What are they going to do make a new modPK3 every week to D/L?
Convince me.
First is the innovator, then comes the imitators. Lastly the idiots.
EvilJohn wrote:Zero tolerance is the best policy when dealing with cheaters.
I would not run etace, CETPUB, Anti3 on any game server. With, or without the licensing from etpro.
Except that it would probably become forced by the majority of leagues. I don't think it matters if public servers use it or not, it's the competitive scene that will be benefiting the most from this.
AC anti-cheat is all about reaction. A web site, group, cheat coder, makes a cheat. A anti- cheat site gets wind of it. They break it down. Then add detections. Those who can add detections instantly are the best. Hub Live Streaming with md5 checks, cvar checks, bind queries, = instantly
What are they going to do make a new modPK3 every week to D/L?
Convince me.
Auto-update feature?
Sure you can add md5 checks and cvar checks, but any cheater with a tenth of a brain is never going to get busted by that, and most competition playing cheaters typically do have that tenth of a brain (sometimes more), which is why you have to eventually move towards the more proactive method of anti-cheat, actually detecting the hack and not just some weird artifact of a hack that the cheater was too stupid to get nailed by.
This mod will probably be about reaction too, and I have faith that the developers will make far quicker reactions in regards to updating detections than Punkbuster ever did for us.
The EU scene is slowly losing patience for punkbuster, I know I did a long time ago. When things like this happen, http://dec.pp.fi/avi/etclips/pbss_is_awesome.avi which caused them to lose the objective a few seconds away from a certain secure, it's hard to have faith.
"but any cheater with a tenth of a brain is never going to get busted by that, and most competition playing cheaters typically do have that tenth of a brain (sometimes more)"
So your saying you and your ban have a 10th of a brain. :0 Your saying your not in the "most' category. You state a loss of faith. but what you have no faith in busted you. Thats whats wrong with leagues like CB. You soon will playing in it again, and the other team will wonder is he cheating again.
Hey good luck to you, and your anti cheat team. Wish you the best. But I can't support those who have destroyed the community, and now want to build it up. Nah. count me out.
Trying or, using Cheats destroys the games we Love!!
First is the innovator, then comes the imitators. Lastly the idiots.
Nothing is worse than bullshit promises & lies!
